Part of the problem is stress that Im presenting this to authority. Part of it is fixation on an outcome I want to get things done. Arrive early in the morning to open up. Im in the same frame of mind as you and WellRed. OP2 Im curious about how senior management (ie, the audience) is able to call you out on the mistakes if this is the first time theyre seeing the presentation? Is education info even private? What does Cydcor do? My Experience with a Multilevel Marketing Pyramid Scheme. Seconding this, and now I see youre a Dragon Age fan? Youd honestly probably be better getting a job in fast food or at Target. OP1, you need to get out as soon as you can. She better not be getting the same pay! Id be concerned that someone pulling out personal info to entertain this nosy group and be the center of attention might have trouble drawing a line. I also have to check documents for accuracy and I become blind to them. So why did I get training pay for my second week when I was promoted on day 7? by the people and upper management who train them. I figured that I was going to be separated amongst the group once the boss walked in -- think again. I deal mostly with numbers but where you have lots of writing, it is useful to read up from the bottom of the page up sentence by sentence. There is a lot of information that is not private that one should use discretion in sharing. #3 please never feel ashamed about any degree level. Agreed. OP#2 Checking for Errors We Do Customer Acquisition Better. Trained alot of guys. And then they promoted someone without either of those degrees. During my two interviews, the office seemed legit. I dont advocate getting a degree for no reason. +1000 for checklists. Im glad you are safe and well. Yeah the idea of picking a pronoun solely based on how others feel about their identities feels very performative to me. Late to the party, but: OP2, what youre describing (obsessively checking for mistakes, missing them, then feeling like life is over when someone else notices) sounds a lot like what in my case turned out to be symptoms of a pretty debilitating anxiety disorder. Note I didnt say never just often. Look for other jobs immediately. First- Cydcors client (cable, internet, office supplies) or Cydcor themselves take the account away from the employee who established the account after 6 weeks- this means that the salesman only gets their residuals for a period of time- if the residuals stayed so would I; it would be a real sales job with potential for exponential pay which would balance out the meager commission. All rights reserved. I imagine that so few people stay for 6 months, they dont expect to ever have to follow through. I work in government and everything (save for SS#s and banking info) in our file is public knowledge so Im not as disturbed by that the info is being kept private but the manner in which she is sharing this and the vitrol/mocking that is surrounding it is definitly wrong and should be brought to the attention of higher-ups. I would write it like this: My student Susan (legal name: Bradley) Smith and Susan hereafter. Today, I walked into the break room and she was showing other employees the education levels of everyone at our company. Luckily I did spot the error at that point and while it is never a happy thing to make a change that large in galleys, it beats waiting till the thing is in print and unfixable. should I take my Etsy business off my resume? A good checklist customized to your needs is a great saver of brain power. Hi OP, Jan 19, 2018 - Team Leader. I NEVER proofread something Ive worked on myself. Anyway, commenters are saying that recommendations are written about a single person, and the colleges will understand that. You should never proofread your own work. I think someone was accidentally outed to family because a letter came with the persons preferred name. The notion that if you haven't made a sale today, you have failed. Cydcor is a multi level marketing firm. I find printing the document is a very good way of changing the appearance, but if you dont want to waste paper, simply copying and pasting the text from powerpoint to word (for example) will help. Description: -Making 100+ dials a day over the phone -Sourcing qualified candidates from posted ADS and resume databases like Careerbuilder, Monster, and Zip- recruiter -Engaging in clerical duties like background check paperwork -Utilizing Microsoft Word platforms such as Excel and PowerPoint 9 Cydcor reviews. I am fan of reading it out loud, which can also be good presentation practice too. Phoenix Solution Cydcor Scam, Pyramid scheme Fairfield, New Jersey. :). RED FLAG 3. I often see small typo/grammatical errors in our management presentations. I get what you are saying but my hesitation with asking the student who has taken the big step to embracing who they are to essentially reconsider just didnt feel right. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. #2 Is it possible to put together a standard checklist that you can reuse? b the ones where the input is most likely to be wrong, based on my experience: Again, taking forecasting as the example, our office in Vienna usually reported salaries with an error rate of 5-10%. Cydcor Pyramid Scheme Cydcor affiliates use deceptive job ads stating marketing training when job is actually door-to-door sales. Long story short, I went out to eat on a Friday night with my boss, and he continued to show me how awesome these "national conference" trips were through several YouTube videos on his Android smartphone. oP 1, they are not going to offer you HR experience. Would you mind a quick look at this for a second pair of eyes? and encourage that person to ask you for the same in return next time they have a big deadline. I know that as a cis lesbian, I wouldnt want to work anywhere where Id have to be closeted, and where the climate is so hostile that Id be fired/not hired for being gay. They will not mention door to door in these ads and even more commonly will list a salary amount that is false. And if you dont have the clout theres nothing you can do: if you strike at a king you should not miss. LW#2 It depends what exactly your mistakes are like but if its spelling, I feel you. Just seeing your words in a different format is a big help. I sold Worldbook and Childcraft door to door in 1981, made enough to pay for my kit and got lots of good exercise, but was glad to abandon that field to get a degree in accounting instead. Im far more impressed than I would be by a degree. Think about this if you are sunk into Phoenix Solution AKA Cydcor.If you check many of these items, and particularly if you check most of them, you might consider examining the group more closely. No need to alternate, necessarily I think that would be unnecessary and more confusing. Yeah I edited Phils comment to remove it. schools require the legal name and might not have a place on application for preferred name. You can also use text-to-speech and listen with headphones. . As far as I can tell its mostly about knowing how to research/learn about new things quickly, and having a deep background. I usually catch it when presenting and say, Sorry folks, that is supposed to read.. and roll on. But just as importantly, Id seriously question the quality of the training youre getting and how well it will translate to another company later. Not everyone has the same pronoun feelings.). The non-binary folks Ive known who give multiple sets of pronouns (he/him or they/them) generally dont mean you need to alternate between the two. So 1 or 2 would be fine. To make money, you act like your trainer and pitch and get sales. So changing up HOW Im looking at the file as well as letting me edit directly on it, helps me be more mindful and catch things I might have otherwise missed. A good place to work for GroupM being a leader in the Media business, it is one of the best places to work for and there are immense opportunities for one to learn and grow across platforms and mediums. Theres a popular post that shows up a lot on Tumblr that tells you never to give your preferred pronouns on a job application, because anyone who asks for them is planning to trash your resume if youre trans or nonbinary. Is this something to discuss with my manager? Recruiters are used to emailing tons of people and only hearing back from a fraction of them; thats just how recruiting works. Not sure if he had violence in mind or just wanted to scare us, but happily nobody actually fell for it. It is the nature of the beast. If you have any ability to do so: run. One, after the experience it is good to relate to others who have been through this bull-s#$% manager training program. More relevant would be a listing of how many things the person has worked on that were commercializedIve known a lot of MS and BS educated folks with decades of experience who have made multiple significant contributions to, you know, curing cancer, solving energy crises, little things like that. I have considered using they for this reason, but didnt want to co-opt a term through some kind of performative allyship. And from time to time, seasonal work leads to other opportunities! The guffawing coworker is just as bad. The recruitment process is what makes Cydcor a scam. Sad to see, really: the company truly needed them. I had a freshly minted MBA, the job market was terrible just post-9/11, and I was grossly underpaid in a job I hated. Car sale. Fortunately, as OP is at the beginning of their working career, that helps. I wasn't paid for those 3 weeks I was there (I was promised "training pay" as well, which I never received) until I had already left the company, which was money I needed to survive. OP, theres a lot of great advice here that I follow/will follow I tend to make careless mistakes because Im often in a rush to produce results. I have been amazed at how much changes like that prevent me from just glazing over and missing errors! Minimally it is a way to discuss the incident without being confrontational say to them that you all were talking about me not having a degree, so I was wondering if the company supports employees in pursuing education with tuition reimbursement You could do it via email if you didnt want to say it in person. Do you want me to be spending 10% of my work on that? Greatest job I've had - been here 17 years. I just want to second Alisons suggestion about retail. OP2 as well as looking at with fresh eyes sometimes changing the font dramatically can help to spot errors because your brain looks at it as new. how legit are those "best places to work" lists? OP4, I would double-check with the student that they want you to use their correct pronouns in this letter (essentially outing them) first, and then follow Alisons advice. Exactly. as it indicates that you have ethics. Does the application list the students legal name, as well as the preferred name? I was desperate for a job but I knew I could never ever ever do a job like that. My last job involved people budget analytics: an area where mistakes werent theoretical constructs, but could result in inaccurate budget forecasts, people not getting their correct salaries on time, and job candidates not accepting salaries because they were too far from market rates. Im still glad I got it but you are not a lesser person for not having it. But if youre more rushing just to get through it,try setting the work down after youre finished and then come back and recheck it later with fresh eyes. I'm currently at an office that is under cydcor doing customer acquisition and I'm making great great money. One red flag I noticed: all pictures of employees were taken on the same day if you click through the multiple tabs "home", "about us", "careers". Here we go. And it sounds as though at least some of your coworkers are not much better. Honestly, maybe I will get in the habit of adding the pronouns on the end of the name in the future. Overall douchey and weird environment. My advice: Be completely aware of who and what you're applying for. If thats the case, dont beat yourself up. Also, I hate that you were mocked for getting a degree in your 30s. I suspect youll catch a lot of the mistakes youre currently missing. My numbers at least were fine. I think in the past theres sometimes been one or two comments like that, but never more. Yes, Fios -- I don't even like TV to be honest with you; in fact, I hate it. It is true. Oh, I left, too. I work in the life sciences (one of those places where you usually need a degree because of the specific things you learn getting that degree), but one of our best lab folks had a BA in music (I never quite got the story of how she went from music to cancer biology). (Which is the first thing that made me want to quit, because aside from the massive privacy violation, we also dont get paid to do customer service because theres no commission for it.). Id only worry if that field was mandatory (according to the employer). For more information, please see our Yep. Because it may be that you will always be rushing and always be tired. They were furious. If you have the people skills to survive public-facing retail, intra-office interactions should be trivial. It is about there student s convenience, not the recommender. The company is barely not a pyramid scheme. I would definitely speak to someone above her. My main task is to compile documents; I set them aside thre times before turning them in, then my supervisor goes through them, and filing clerk checks them before they are put into the system. This article has not been reviewed by Odyssey HQ and solely reflects the ideas and opinions of the creator. The owner gets to go on a lot of vacations while the staff does door to door sales all day. Thank you for being a supportive and thoughtful person in their life! Why was the HR person sharing peoples education levels in the break room? Ive known people who use multiple sets of pronouns who prefer a range things. I am not arguing for the casual and regular use of deadnames here. Or they have one, but not all of them were magna cum laude, ok? I will still skim the emails just in case, but its rarely worth pursuing at this point in my career. Pyramid scheme under a company called Cydcor. Bachem has an overall rating of 2.8 out of 5, based on over 107 reviews left anonymously by employees. This helps you to spot mistakes because it stops you making predictions or assumptions about what the text says that stop you noticing whats actually there. That is not even the interesting part, it is how the reps are taught to conduct these interviews. ANY personal information shared in the break room by an HR hack is grossly inappropriate. Johnson said that her parents were turned down by a judge in Tampa, but travelled to Pinellas County, where a judge approved her marriage. Still, it was always very useful for spotting doubled-up words or occasions where I restructured sentences in a way that cut words but made no sense. That HR person should be fired. require a college degree. My 3.8 GPA, marketing experience, organizational experience, and set of leadership skills literally meant nothing -- I was at the bottom with people who didn't even attend college! The manager will then bring the interview into the office and begin barraging them with meaningless questions. Well I can tell you from experience that it's definitely not a scam. Work on your temperament (does a reward get you through a tough patch of combing fine detail?) I dont think they pronouns alone outs anyone. #4 This is not going to be the first time a college has seen a letter for a non binary person or someone who has a traditionally feminine name and is not that gender. Not at the HS graduate, who is usually 40+ and got the role before it was a requirement, but at the fact that todays young people wont have these job opportunities for no good reason. Just like it wouldnt be right to refer to someone non-binary who goes by they as he or she because youd rather use one of those, it wouldnt be right to make those who want he or she go by they. I interviewed at a Cydcor-like company on accident once. Cydcor is known to be awful. There are also phone apps that will read content for you. After the crowds subsided and it was time to go back to 'reality' that is when the pain hit me. Good luck. Actually, as far as the first round interviews go they are just looking to fill 2nd round interview slots in for their leaders. I dont know how well that works with the OPs data-focused presentations, though. I mean, I have a degree and my sister doesnt. The company is barely not a pyramid scheme. Ive used Voice Dream, personally. I quit the next day. I think they prey on new grads constantly, but recessions are especially full of these sharks. If your problem is the latter though, like Alison suggested, Id raise the issue with your boss, preferably ASAP. CEO Approval. Read it paragraph by paragraph, even sentence buy sentence, starting at the end and finishing at the beginning. Kudos to you for succeeding with having incurred debt and lost years of earnings. OP#3 Your HR person is a jerk I am sorry this happened. Recommend. checklists, especially for tasks you dont do frequently. So the LW should ask the student which name/s and pronoun/s theyre using in their own materials, and then use the same in the recommendation letter. The next one will be better and more precise. I am a high school counselor. Someone coming in with a fresh set of eyes can check if the overall results make sense, if they match other sources, if the code looks right, if important control values are correct, etc. Maybe the best thi g would be to do a draft, ask student to look at it and if they agree that the pronouns are correct. There is a giving side of the solution. It all clicked together. OP4, Im non-binary and use they/them pronouns and I disagree slightly with Alison. 7. Higher education is not the one that determines a degree is required for a job, HR is. I know plenty of cis people (most but not all non-straight) who use they pronouns, as a form of both allyship with trans people and a way to fight against the gender binary. There may also be considerations with their legal or deadname being used on application materials, so you might end up needing something like Susan (he/they, formerly Jason) at the start of the letter. #7 Yes! It wouldnt surprise me at all if they asked for preferred pronouns on applications, and it certainly wouldnt be to trash the application of non-cis people. If you were interested in completing a degree I would honestly use this incident as a way to approach the HR person about a tuition reimbursement program. 4. What the HR manager is doing is simply mortifying. Swapped 2 of the letters. It makes me wonder what else they were sharing. We just care if you can get the job done. One example: probably 50% of my errors were in presentations, where the title would say one thing (we need to increase salaries by 3.5% across the board next year), but the tables or graphs on the slide would say something else (a 3.2% increase is sufficient to stop attrition). I did exactly this. The HR experience is learning how to interview dozens of people daily and ensnare people into your psychological sales cult. If you would like to see more Rip-off Reports on this company/individual, search here: Do not waste your time with this scam company. Roesleins point is that the OP should stop being embarrassed and just own it. I second the suggestion to put the document down, do something else for a little while, and then go back and look at it again once your brain has changed gears. Likewise, Im against Susan Bradley Smith (or worse, Bradley Susan Smith, which makes it sound like their name isnt really their name). As stated in blog articles and reviews about Cydcor, they do indeed have a secretary at the front literally calling applicants for interviews as you're in the CEO's office interviewing (you can hear the pitch they gave you over the phone word for word through the wall). You can also be up front: It takes me 10 hours to write a general planning document of 20 pages. If the LW specified, they seem to not trying to mask it. I went in expecting to see a nice office building. I had this problem in my last job and even though there were plenty of external indicators that the lack of time=careless mistakes, this never registered for my supervisor until I explicitly told her. Until I got a new sales job the following week where my base salary was more than I made the entire previous year. After the second interview I did NOT get a call back, although they told me that theyd call me before 7 PM that day even if it was a no. Customer acquisition programs aimed at small and medium-sized businesses match client products and solutions to customers' unique needs. I knew something was wrong when I showed up for my interview and there were like 15 other people sitting in the lobby. One thing that Ive found that really helps me is to have the file Im proof-reading somewhere I can write on it. Which is why he is a former police officer. I agree on #2. Because applications can be super official, you can check that hes using his name in the application and wants to be referred to as Susan in the letter. OTOH, Susan (who uses they pronouns) is not inclusive at all. Often I miss them in many read-throughs because reading it out, even in my head, sounds correct. Luckily the previous job offers that I had turned down were able to still offer me a position; had this not happened I would be in complete outrage right now. If you are looking at a spreadsheet, you have to look at each input cell individually. And see below link: Well, I'm not going to say this is a big time scam or anything but I only worked for them for 4 hours and quit, and I sure am glad that I did.I responded to an ad on craigslist for advertising and marketing in the sports and entertainment industries. It sounds as though at least some of your coworkers are not a scam Cydcor affiliates use deceptive ads! 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