Antique 1837 Brunswick Rifle muzzle loader, .704 flanged ball, with ramrod, patch box, sling which is old, don't know if original. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. By 1845 it was in India,and by 1848-49, it wasin combat during the Sikh War. 3) Another, Anderson, wscabbard and web frog. OK, here's some tardily delivered photos of the progress as it were. During November and December, six of Lovells first model two groove rifles were given a searching test by a Committee of Officers under Maj.-Gen. Millar, Director of Artillery. The gun has a nice, untouched and uncleaned look to it. Many of them were later reamed out to smooth bore after they were sold as surplus when Britain went to cartridge firing rifles. These P-1841 rifles went into production around 1844 and were in the field the following year, and most collectors refer to the improved Brunswick as the Pattern 1844. The bore is very dark and dirty would probably be much improved by a good scrubbing. MLS 8693739. An altered pattern was submitted in August 1837, and the first bulk order of 1000 rifles was given on October 25, 1837. My Jeff Tanner mold will be here in about a week. Regardless he has a pretty cool piece of history !!!! Any information anyone has would be fantastic. Rifles Shotguns Class III Firearms & NFA Items Antique Handguns Antique Long Guns Commemorative Firearms Edged Weapons . The lock has scattered light to moderate pitting, which has obscured the (CROWN) / VR in front of the hammer, as well as the lock marking TOWER 1846, which is very difficult to read. These Brunswick Rifles almost certainly saw combat less than a month later at the Battle of Iuka, MS (September 19, 1862) and again soon after at the second Battle of Corinth, MS (October 3-4, 1862). This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. The first Brunswick rifles were made by the following gunmakers: Production began in March 1838, and the first mass-produced rifles were issued to the Rifle Brigade, the Canadian Rifle Regiment, and a few specialized units in 1840. While this pattern sight is found on the Volunteer pattern Brunswick Rifles (especially the so called .577 Brunswick-Enfield rifle), it is not found on British military pattern Brunswick rifles, with the exception of those sold to the Confederacy via Barnett and S. Isaac, Campbell & Company. The lock was originally a back action design, with the mainspring located behind the hammer. The 60th still exists today and are known as "The Royal Green Jackets". (Firepower From Abroad, Wiley Sword, Appendix II, Page 67) The Confederates adapted a .70 Caliber Minie Ball round which was found to be more accurate than the original "belted ball" ammunition. Thanks Jeff for the pictures !! This pattern of sight was never mounted on British military Brunswick rifles and to my knowledge is only found on British military Brunswicks with Confederate purchase provenance. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. In January of the following year, it became apparent that 600 of these would be required urgently for Col. Brown's Battalion of the Rifle Brigade and that the Enfield factory would not be able to supply them in time. The period of these weapons spans from 1816-1945. According to the Gorgas Summary of Small Arms Purchases made by Caleb Huse, some 2,020 Brunswick Rifles were purchased by the south at a cost of 54 schillings each. International orders of antique firearms MUST be shipped using UPS WW Services (courier). You know how it is you hear these old "words of wisdom" way back that sounds good but no real proof to it !! The original bayonet mounting bar is present on the right side of the barrel as well. As noted above the lock is somewhat evenly pitted with light to moderate oxidation present, partially obscuring the markings. To date nine examples of these Confederate purchased Brunswick Rifles are known, all bearing the CH/1 inspection mark Curtis & Hughes, who acted as viewers for Confederate arms purchases in England, usually of guns sold by Barnett. Atlanta Cutlery had a bunch of these which came from Nepal. The Volunteer pattern, smaller bore guns have stamped inventory numbers, and the extant examples range from #207 through #1065. Selling a Nepalese 1837 Brunswick 2 groove rifle. This curious arm with its two-groove bore and belted bullet remained in the hands of Regulars, Militia and Native troops for almost half a century, despite complaints of the guns inaccuracy and difficult loading system. The name J. Cook almost certainly refers to John Thomas Cook who would later be the principle in Cook & Son, an important Birmingham gunmaker that supplied many arms to the Confederacy during the course of the Civil War. The total weight was also reduced to approximately 9 lb. Here is the rifle. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22. The lock works perfectly. However, this Hanovarian design was rejected in favor of what became the standard Two Groove "Belted Ball" .704 Cal. While the CH / 1 is nearly obliterated by the hole from the old collection tag, I am quite sure that I can make out its remnants. Product Information A P-1837 Brunswick percussion rifle, chambered in .704. Like all rifles of the period, the Brunswick rifle suffered from the problem of being difficult to load. 1,512 Sq. Sooner, it was the Baker rifle that was a flintlock, the Brunswick looks similar but they were percussion rifles. Forsyth died in June 1843, aged 74. Huse acquired all of the Brunswick Rifles from S. Isaac, Campbell & Company, who purchased the guns from J.E. The 18th Arkansas fought at both Iuka and Corinth, and suffered staggering causalities at the second battle with losses approaching 85% of the regiment. This is an issue or inventorynumber. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. This was changed fairly early in the rifle's life, and most were 0.704 inches (17.9mm) caliber. Display as a link instead, This 1st Pattern Brunswick rifle is a real piece of history and innovation. A good clean example, have a plain percussion lock which has a good working action. The Brunswick rifle was fitted with a new back-action lock, two sights (one that could flip up for longer range shooting), a strong bayonet fitting, a patch box, a patent breech to allow easy detachment of the barrel for cleaning and a reduced-caliber sub-chamber in the barrel for more efficient ignition of the powder charge. I bayonet. The barrel shows some lightly scattered pinpricking along its length, with slightly more pinpricking around the breech and bolster area along with a few patches of light pitting as well. You can post now and register later. However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. A tight old grain crack also runs through the area of wood filler under the rear barrel wedge. Right, so now to tackle the patch box - a rather big job on this particular example since we have two problems to account for: Oh, right. Pubs, Breweries and Historic Hotels. Confederate Brunswicks are also photographed in the latest edition of Flayderman's and in "The Fighting Men of the Civil War" by William Davis on Pgs 52-53. The Brunswick Rifle remained a standard issue long arm for rifle troops until about 1853, when sufficient quantities of the new Pattern 1851 Mini Rifles had been produced and could be issued, effectively turning all British infantrymen into riflemen. I wonder if Jeff's Brunswick came thru IMA by chance ?? By purchasing an antique gun from IMA you thereby release IMA, its employees and corporate officers from any and all liability associated with use of our Antique guns. Please see our. Is that a flip sight on the rifle and you got any info on it ? Those brought into the U.S. during the Civil War proved problematic and a make-shift fix was found using a large hollow-skirt Mine ball for operations. Time to start installing the key escutcheons. The wood is walnut, in good condition and solid with small nicks and dings from its various travels and campaigns. If you want to shoot your Brunswick, you don't need a special mould to cast those belted balls, you can use a normal round ball and a patch as you would for a standard rifle of the same caliber. The first bulk order for the setting up of 1000 rifles at Enfield was given on 25th October 1837. Lt.-Col. Eeles agreed that the new rifle should have a sword attached to the barrel in the same manner that the swords were fixed during the time of the War. In May 1836, Lovell was, in fact, instructed to prepare an experimental rifle with a sword bayonet. You can see the new one in the below pics IMA Brunswick rifle - a restoration thread. The service rifle (also known as standard-issue rifle) of a given army or armed force is that which it issues as standard to its soldiers. In fact the accuracy (or rather inaccuracy) of the rifle was such that during the last years of production the multi-leaf rear sight was abandoned for a fixed sight, with the Board of Ordnance feeling that the adjustable sight was unnecessary for the rifle or the rifleman! [2] Almost immediately, the caliber was changed from 0.654 inches (16.6 mm) to 0.704 inches (17.9 mm) under a new program of standardization. The Brunswick rifle was one of several designs submitted to replace the Baker rifle. Came with a original buttplate and parts of the patchbox cover. Brunswicks were built by Enfield andseveral private firms in London which are marked "Tower". Interested in gun and sword. Road Trip: Marysville, WA 98270 to JBLM (tacoma, WA 98433), Dongar Mirror to Dashcam Power Adapter (Toyota), Handgun Bundle (Keltec CP33 + Glock 34 Gen 5 MOS), Sig Sauer MCX Virtus/TACOPS 11.5" 5.56 & 6.75" 300BLK Package, BNIB Left handed Stag arms upper/lower/bcg/handguard, I agree to the classified rules and terms of service. Just from the way it looks, I don't think that one is a conversion, sooner. These nine examples vary in features and caliber, with some being .704 2-groove military rifles (both 1837 and 1844 patterns) and some being smaller bore volunteer models. Thebarrel is marked Enfield 1842 whilce the lock is dated 1843..which is totally correct. Pasted as rich text. JavaScript is disabled. The twist of this rifling was increased to a three-quarter turn in the thirty inches of barrel. The brass furniture is in good condition and consists of the nose cap, ram rod guides, triggerguard, patchbox, and buttplate. I had hoped to be further along but my wife wanted the porch fixed too, and happy wife = happy life. All subsequent patterns were 0.704 inches (17.9mm) caliber. IMA considers all of our antique guns as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The interior of the lock is inspected with a (CROWN) / 12, and the hammer neck is inspected (CROWN) / 5. Original Item: The first British Percussion Military Rifle to succeed the famous BAKER Flintlock Rifle of the Napoleonic era was originally intended to have eleven groove rifling. Very quick response when ordering molds. Talk about a before and after. I wonder if this wasn't due to the hard lessons the British military learned from the French-Indian Wars and American Revolution in which colonists used the long range potential of the rifled Pennsylvania rifle to their advantage. Original Bayonet (2) Price $165 plus postage . The bayonets were made by Armaments Corporation of South Africa (ARMSCOR. Each rifle retains its original flip rear sights, and heavy steel bayonet bar on the right side of the barrel to carry a brass hilted sword bayonet. Canadian Voltigeurs Regiment, 1812-15: Quebec, Ontario. During most of the firms life it was on Newtown Row (later Newtown Road) in the gunmaking district of Birmingham. Two of the faults to which the Committee had objected in the Brunswick specimen had been removed. It is estimated that approximately 10,000 to 12,000 of these were made in Nepal. Thus the whole order was put out to the trade in London at a charge of 38s per rifle. and less facility in loading would render it very unmanageable for the use of troops in the field. The Brunswick rifle proved to be equally accurate at shorter ranges, and more accurate at longer ranges. Even though the rib and groove design of the Brunswick allowed it to use rounds that did not fit quite as tightly, the black powder used during this period would quickly foul the barrel, making even the Brunswick's design more and more difficult to load as the rifle was used. Where the rifling left the muzzle, Lovell made two semi-circular notches into which the belt of the ball fitted a considerable help to loading. This summary report was dated February 3, 1863, and most likely covered the purchases made by Huse between the time he arrived in England during the summer of 1861 and the end of 1862. All the screws were rusted hand-made ones. There are also some small patches of more moderate pitting present in the bore, and the rifling is slightly thinner near the muzzle, suggesting at least moderate use during its working life. A couple of minor chips of wood are missing as well, one to the rear of the barrel tang and one to the rear of the lock mortise. On February 5th 1836, 2,000 new rifles were ordered by the Board, and George Lovell was instructed to provide a pattern similar to the Baker. Wow! This particular example was built by Enfield in 1843 and survived thousands of miles of travel across land, sea, and plenty of combat. George Lovell an Employee and later Inspector for Enfield dedicated himself to bringing the percussion system to the British military, and as early as 1831 began experimenting with various systems. One extant Confederate ordnance document dated August 27, 1862 records the transfer of 260 British rifles (two-groove) from the Charleston Arsenal to General Sterling Price at Tupelo, MS. What a great job of restoration. Nearby homes similar to 18195 E Atlantic Dr have recently sold between $450K to $550K at an average of $340 per square foot. Here is your chance to own an extremely scarce Confederate import for a very fair price, and add a gun to your collection that you might not see available for sale again for a decade. Description A British Indian Army 1837 Model Brunswick rifle. British 1837 Brunswick Bayonet Marked with Enfield and 1842 on the blade . Clear editor. When it arrived, it looked rather like the pictures on their site - covered in filth, crystallized storage grease, rust and grime. . The gun is a first variation, British military marked Pattern 1844 Brunswick rifle, with the original 1837 style bayonet bar, forward action lock of the Pattern 1841/44 rifle, a 30 1/8" 2-groove .704 caliber barrel (with .760 grooves), the standard two-leaf rear sight and the usual large brass patchbox. These cases were marked in three lines B / WD / H within a rhomboid, indicating Brunswick, War Department (Confederate Ordnance Department) and Huse. This innovation was designed to engage with rifling . Our "Brunswicks" were manufactured by the East India Company and Nepalese armorer using a mix of British and locally made parts they were issued exclusively to the British Home Army and the Indian Army rifle regiments. 3 Beds. This is a government produced example and has a tight fit of wood to metal, good edges, a medium tone to the brass patchbox, triggerguard and rammer thimbles, with blue turned plum mixing with pewter color to the metal, and crisp markings in both wood and metal. Barrels were made with Damascus twist steel - not iron. The rifling design had been selected not so much for accuracy, but for its ability to see significant use without becoming too fouled to load. OK, time to show off some small positive progress. They are sold as collector's items or as "wall hangers". Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). The Trigger guard, Butt Cap. It should be noted that Lovell moved this bayonet bar back from the muzzle so that when the bayonet was fixed, its guard was not in front of the muzzle - the main fault of the Baker. By 1830'sand 40's standards, this was quite an advancement in its day, something that is often over-shadowed by the development of the Minie Ball. This gun is being sold by Pigeon Watch member P08 . Or am I confusing that with something else? Only a handful of these Confederate Brunswicks are known, and fine examples with great markings sell in the low 5-figure price range. 3 Beds. The bore is in about GOOD+ to NEAR VERY GOOD condition with very strong and deep 2-groove rifling its entire length along with light pitting scattered along the entire bore. In 1841 an improved version was adopted with a conventional side lock and the hooked breech was eliminated. Our competition-style Gold . . I don't know if I have ever seen a finer restoration of one of the guns from the Nepal Cache. The lock is mechanically excellent and functions perfectly on all positions. Purcahsed, World Wars - Military (Other than edged weapons), Shortened Confederate Imported Pattern 1851 Minie RIfle, Extremely Rare Confederate Jackson Mississippi Altered Hall Rifle Converted to Cavalry Carbine, Rare US Model 1865 Joslyn Rifle Socket Bayonet & Scabbard. The lever on the end of the barrel is a bayonet lug. His initial success was in a back-action percussion lock that was utilized on his short-lived Pattern 1838 musket, but saw significant service with the newly designed P-1837 Brunswick Rifle. 3 Baths. So I ordered a Pattern 1837 Brunswick rifle form IMA a couple weeks ago. I can't wait to get out to the range. 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